I have no time for the SNP. I'm sure it comes as no surprise to most of you.
I have no issue with anyone wanting 'independence'. Independence is a good thing, for everyone. However, the SNP version of independence concerns me. 'An independent Scotland within Europe' rings a bell, (feel free to correct me if I am wrong, I can't be bothered checking any facts. Collect your refund on the way out etc etc). So, as far as the SNP is concerned, it's goodbye London and hello Brussels. So, it's not really independence then, is it? But as long as the bastard English have been told where to get off, that's all that matters, eh....
They are even more Nanny State than NuLieBore. We are cajoled and pushed around to the whim of the socialist, (and they are socialists, big time), mantra. Unable to think for ourselves apparently, we are constantly told that we drink to much, have poor diet, don't take enough exercise and are incapable of being good parents. The amount of Scottish Government adverts on TV/radio and in the press is simply staggering. Stupid schemes to 'rectify' our national ills are launched, a recent example being the minimum pricing for alcohol nonsense. It won't 'cure' the problem, but they must be seen to be doing something. And being politicians the only thing they can come up with is making us pay more for our swally. If you have had the misfortune to read some of the more rabid pro SNP blogs, you would be forgiven for thinking that you had stumbled into a Labourlist socialist wank fest. Any dissenting comments are put down with the usual socialist tactic of mockery and smugness.
But what really gets to me with the SNP is that they take advantage of the politically naive. You see Fat Eck on the telly spouting some drivel about 'our oil' and taking control of 'our destiny' and the impressionable wanna be freedom fighters puts the X next to the SNP candidates name come election time. I can't believe people actually fall for all the bullshit they spout. There's absolutely nothing wrong with being proud of your country, being a proud Scot. But who gave the SNP sole right to the 'proud Scot' badge? They have hi-jacked it to serve their own needs.
Scotland desperately needs more 'pro-independence' parties. It shouldn't be the sole property of one party, a socialist kneejerk party. The SNP are more dangerous than NuLieBore.
SNP - Political Thrush. SNP - Irritating Twats.
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Who was it who said "You love Scotland more, the further you are away from it". I doubt it was Sean, could have been second generation like Rod Stewart. Ol' Rod gets a lot of grief but the man is talented and has real balls. Anyone who doubts it just needs to remember he was one of the first white men to sing at the Harlem Apollo and what song did he sing? Only Otis fuckin' Reading - that takes some balls.
As far as the Oil goes I have tried to work out the net revenue to England, (used to trade oil futures for a brief period), and it is impossible seeing as it is taxed at source, at point of sale and through corporate taxes. I would guess that one hundred billion a year since nineteen eighty is about right. Peak production in ninety two was about six million barrels a day, roughly two thirds of Saudi production and I don't know if you have noticed but Mary Hill or Govan bears little resemblance to Saudi Arabia, (too many drunks for a start). Its also worth bearing in mind that Norwegians who have a strategic oil reserve fund have the highest standard of living in the world and the average pension is ninety percent of final salary. The exploitation of the oil isn't my main problem. It is the fact that all Oil producing waters are regarded as effectively UK water even in the event of an independent Scotland. I think the term is Ex Regina, but it basically means that Scotland does not enjoy the territorial claim to its waters that every single nation does. Still maybe there is sense in letting the English manage things, after all we took ovewr their banks and look how well that turned out.
Give us the oil - you can keep the banks.
I left out the oil 'equation' on purpose. If Scotland ended up independant and with all the oil rights, I can't see England sitting back and letting us get on with it.
Oh Rab.
I see a glass half full...
Ach well Conan, it needed saying!
Ever since I was a boy in the coocaddens in the late fifties early sixties that's all I've heard, Scotland is the sick man of Europe and their still fucking saying it!
Independance? Sounds more like out of the frying pan to me.
Jings Rab, I've never seen one advert. Am I out of the loop? Mind you I tend to listen to radio for specific reasons so perhaps that's why.
I think you're being unkind about the SNP. They're the first party in Scotland to show how inadequate the last 50 years of government by labour have been. Who else has done that? Certainly not the libdems in partnership with labour in the Scottish Parliament for 8 years before the SNP became the government.
I'm all for independence but I leave myself free to criticise every party's policies as I see fit.
Have to agree with you, there are so many in every 'unionist' party who think independence would be a good thing, but they have an aversion to the SNP for some reason. The SNP lot are a good bunch, on the whole, from my view. There are fanatics in every political party who detest anyone straying from the party line and that's upsetting. Anyway us bloggers can cope with them can't we.
Rab, either you want to se an independent Scotland or not. If you do then you must vote SNP, they're the only game in town. After independence they may still be in power or that may fragment because their "reason d'etre" is independence. After that who knows. I'll tell you one thing though, being part of the UK isn't working and I believe that if the economy improves as seems likely these bastards will get back in.. In fact I've got money on them to be the biggest party at very attractive odds. The tory vote is not increasing, only the Labour vote is not coming out but they will at a G.E.
Rab,
This a great post for a Yank to read. It's good to hear the other side of the story for once. Thanks, mate!
If you haven't read it before, it's well worth checking out what Niall Ferguson had to say on Scotland a couple of years back:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/personal-view/3622053/Happy-Hogmanay---and-to-celebrate-lets-put-Scotland-into-liquidation.html
No country is independent in the EU. We're all in the same fucked up boat.
"You either want Independence or you don't"
How about leaving us all in fucking peace and stop banging the "Independence" pish. Call a referendum now. Let's have a straight question - yes or no. Get it over and fucking done with.
And could we please drop the crap about the oil. The oil's gone, finito, spent.
Get yersel a bottle of coke. Shake it up and take the top off. It skooshes oot all over the shop. That's what the North Sea was like in the 70's.
Now, put the top back on the bottle and shake it up again. You'll get some more to skoosh oot, but no as much. That's what the North Sea was like in the 90s.
Now, see all that coke in the bottle - about a third full. You can shake it and shake it all you fucking like, but it's never going to skoosh oot the top. That's the North Sea now, or very soon.
When the nationalists start bumping their gums aboot "It's oor oil" and "There's umpty squillion barrels in reserve", they don't have a fucking clue.
The oldest well in America sits on big "reserves" and it's still pumping oil over a hundred years after being drilled. But it produces about 20 barrels a year. If there's no pressure, there's fuck all you can do.
Aye, you can pump water down under pressure, but that tends to disperse the oil into the rocks, leading to micro deposits which only specialist wee oil companies can chase. Notice how all the really big companies got out of the North Sea a while ago?
What I obect to with the SNP is only one form of "Independence" is on offer - the one that sees Scotland gang-fucked by the EU. That's not Independence.
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